Q & A

What plot pre-requisites are their?

You need to be male, human, elven , half-elf or allegedly halfling.

She's not talking to me, what the problem?

It's not started yet, you've hit a bug, (patch the game), you are waiting for a time triggered event, (pause the game and have a coffee, glass of wine, cigarette or find some otherway to waste some time). Also remember that some time triggered events only occur at the begining, during or at the end of a rest. Otherwise you may be waiting for a plot based event, (undertake the appropriate quest, I can't say more; I don't want spoilers on this site), you are waiting for a location dependent event ( go to where you need to be, again, saying more would introduce spoilers) or you've lost the quest (using shadowkeeper or CLUAConsole, check the variable JAHEIRAROMANCEACTIVE ). An alternative to pausing the game to provoke the next event is to reset JAHEIRAROMANCE to 1. Neither of these tricks work if the next event is plot based or the time based event is constrained around party resting.

When does the romance start?

It starts at the begining of Chapter 2. Prior to this, JAHEIRAMATCH will be set to 1, if of the appropriate race & gender, but the others are not set.

Does the romance suspend during chapters 4 & 5 ?

This is a piece of folk lore that is commonly believed. My experience is that this is not true, however, much of these chapters are in dungeons where the Jaheria romance will not progress. Spending a lot of time in a dungeon between events may be the cause of the recurring dialogue bug, where a time triggered event cause the previous dialogue to occur.

What is the recurring dialogue bug?

In the latter part of the romance, it is possible that a dialogue will be repeated several times. It would seem that this increments LOVETALK, and thus causes you to miss certain events.

My theory is that this relates to spending excessive time in dungeons and that if a constrained event i.e. plot, location or time constrained (around rest periods) is required and a time trigger fires then it repeats the previous dialogue. So dunno why and dunno what the side effects are and haven't found any one else's documentation except Manveru. Not mch of an answer, but I know it occurs.

Manveru, see Usefull Links suggests/states that the recurring dialogue bug is caused by quitting from the 'Sleep' videos too quickly. So don't do it!!

Sparky at Planet Baldur's Gate suggests its a syncronisation issue and that you need to get a number of LOVETALKs done before a plot event based on the Harper's quest. (It would be deeply useful if I could bother to research and document the syncronisation issue).

Who are the other lovers?

You mean jaheira isn't enough for you? The game comes with Viconia, Jaheria, Aerie and Amonen romances, if this isn't enough then others are available as add on's on the web.

Can I romance others while romancing Jaheira ?

If by others, you mean the bioware supplied alternative lovers, then you may pursue more than one lover, but this complicates the storyline and they will notice and have expectations that you commit to only one of them i.e. they'll make you choose. Advice at the Planet Baldursgate forums is to pursue the romances one after another. This is done by not asking alternative lovers to join the party until you are ready. There is also a Baldurdash modification to allow concurrent romances.

Can I remove Jaheira from the Party?

No! Removing her from the party ends the romance . Being turned to stone is also treated as removed from the party and so ends the romance, as does at least one other spell (Imprisonment).

Can I resurrect Jaheira if she dies? Does the romance continue?

I don't know, I doubt it!. It is probably more dangerous to the romance to permit her to die, even if you resurrect her in fights caused by romance plot events, but probably any death ends the romance. NB. It is possible for NPC's to die without leaving the party.

What is the most recent software build version?

At the time of writing, 23037, you should check this on Bioware site

Can I install Baldurdash on top of "Throne of Bhaal"?

Baldurdash has both Shadows of Amn & Thorne of Bhall versions. Thye are designed to be applied on an official patched versionof the appropriate game. Use the appropriate patch & Baldurdash Fix patch for your game. Updated: Jan 2005

When should I install the Baldurdash patches?

If you choose to install them, do it after installing the offiicial patches, and before starting the game.

What is LOVETALK?

It is a game variable held in the game file that counts the events in the story.

What is CLUAConsole?

The integrated cheat console. It permits a number of things, including the manipulation of the romance game file variables. See also Using the Cheat Tools & Poking the Game on this site.

What is Shadowkeeper?

An alternative windows based game file editor. See also "Using the Cheat Tools" & "Usefull Links" on this site.

April 2002